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Author Topic: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes  (Read 3620 times)

Bunky Twincam

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Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« on: April 25, 2016, 07:34:51 PM »

Hello,

I contacted Burton Power in the UK and they advised me that they could supply a Vented front Capri Disc and an M16 front caliper spacer kit to suit the wider vented disc. They said it was a direct bolt on and no mods are needed. As you can see from my pictures the disc is not even close and the caliper is not an M16 so the spacer kit does not fit either.

I contacted burtons and they tell me that obviously I do not have a TC or TD' MK3 Cortina upright disc or caliper in my car, however I pulled the front end from a TC Cortina myself.

Is there any variation between models or years and is the English MK3? different to the Australian TC or TD.

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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 10:19:59 PM »

as per the other post the very first of the tc's had a different stub axle or upright as the poms called them, later tc's and td's had the same stub axles. not sure how they do it but i wouldnt think just on gap size alone that a vented rotor is going to fit into a std cortina caliper.

what is a m16 caliper?
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2016, 10:24:48 PM »

Burtons told me that all MK3, 4 & 5 Cortinas have an M16 Caliper which is what is on my Escort, so they sold me an M16 caliper spacer kit which goes between the two halves of the caliper and makes it wider, I have this on my escort with vented disc's and it works great.

Where do I get the later style stub axle and wheel hub so I could use the disc's they have supplied?

Here is a picture of what I think I need. this is from a post in the UK and uses the same disc and a M16 caliper.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 11:50:53 PM »

ahh i see how the spacer works. i had it in my head it was an adaptor plate of sorts.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 11:47:51 PM »

So will the aftermarket alloy MK3 Cortina hub fit onto my TC stub axle?
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2016, 01:40:27 AM »

i went and had a look at the gear i have. of about 10 front ends they all look the same as the first photo you posted except for 1. this is a series 1 imprted tc and the front end is still in the car and has the wheels on it. looking thru the wheels i think i can see the bolts that hold the hub to the disc which i wouldnt normally be able to see in the later type. i'll take the wheel off and have a better stickybeak on the weekend.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 11:24:42 AM »

BigNorm,

That would be great.

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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2016, 09:02:23 PM »

ok, i took the wheel off and i think this is the arrangement you want. i remember seeing granada vented discs on these stub axles. im not sure what makes them different to  the later hub setups.

any flat-firewalled tc in australia will run this hub type setup.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2016, 11:07:04 AM »

That's what I am after, do you want to sell the hubs and the calipers?

Please, Please, Please, Please.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2016, 02:38:32 PM »

yeah i do but they're on a running driving car. i havent decided what i'm doing with the car yet but i'm not in a position to disable it just yet as i need to move it in and out to get another car in and out. you're also going to need the upper control arms which would mean lowering the k frame so its not a 5 minute exercise.

how much of a hurry are you in?
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2016, 03:52:49 PM »

I am in no hurry, are the upper control arms different to what I have? or do I need the upright and stub axle as well?
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2016, 09:43:49 PM »

you will need the whole lot. i've never pulled them apart and sat them side by side to compare the differences but i know the upper control arms were different on the early tc's. it must be to match these stub axles and i know trhese are different as you've found, the later stub axles dont take the english vented brake upgrade.
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2016, 03:42:10 PM »

Just a check that may not be too hard, will the early front hub and disc push onto and fit up on a later TC stub axle, I am just wondering if the stub axles are the same but later in Australia they went to a different hub and disc because we sold 6 cylinder engines?

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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2016, 04:46:52 PM »

Norm,

Below are some pictures of my TC front suspension. The measurement between the upper mounting flanges is 687mm and the measurement between the lower control arm bolt centres is 630mm.

Can you please tell me if a TE or TF Cortina front suspension has the same types of mounts and is the same measurements?

Cheers
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Re: Can someone please tell me about TC/TD front brakes
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2016, 06:48:56 PM »

You realize the Te/f x member is welded in.
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