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October 17, 2026, 03:38:13 AM

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[ACEROVERS]

Hi guys, Im part of a group called Rovers, part of the Scout Association down in South Aus. Down here we have an event called Sandblast, basically off road racing, more of a motorKhana type thing.

The reason why i joined this forum is because were looking at getting a TE Cortina with a 250 CrossFlow in it to race at this event. The body works' not the best, but the engine was reconstructed 6 months ago. The guys giving it to us for $400, this a good buy? How well would this car go in a racing situation?

Cheers for any help/suggestions  

[Bucster]

Hi, Welcome to the site, if the motors fairly fresh as in 6 months old, 400bux is a  good starting point, did he advise if its a stock motor, does it have a better cam, carby , extractors, bigger exhaust etc, or is it all standard.
The cortina is a very light car with a powerful torque monster motor with the 4.1 L, they can be lots of fun, they are still fairly basic to work on and the satisfaction gained when you get the smile on your face from competing keeps the enthusiasm high and the competition enjoyable.

Most club members have lots of spare parts and are very helpfull with information when required.

Good luck and keep us posted when you decide what your doing.

Bucster

[ACEROVERS]

Did the TE come standard with the 250? appart from that, im pretty sure its got a non stock exhaust, and everything else looks stock... Im sorry, its my first time tinkering around a car, more than just on a basic level, so sorry if i sound stupid  

[Bucster]

Yes the Te came stock with the 4.1 and also the 3.3L six cylinder. What modifications are allowed in your class for motorkhana.
Does it have a steel or alloy head?
Do you know what the carb is?
Any extractors?

Graphitti, fordcortina.com.au down the side and we should  be able to scrape up some go fast bits for it.
Get some pics in the gallery.

Bucster

[ACEROVERS]

Were still trying to get the exact regulations for our particular MotorKhana, however, were pretty sure that we are able to do pretty much what ever we want to it.

I believe it has a steel head on it, the carb has been changed, but i would have no idea what to and it doesnt havnt any extractors, that i know of (this is just all off the top of my head, from what i can remember)

We would be more than happy to put your name across it somewhere!

[BigNorm]

i was in rovers and venturers 15-20 years ago and we had a motor event called bush baja. it would be by far the highlight of the whole year.

we'd get a car that run, knock the windows out, weld the doors shut, external kill switch and blue trinagle for the battery and then cane the piss out of it thru the bush for a weekend.

[ACEROVERS]

Yeah, the first year i went to our event it was pretty much exactly the same... Then they got shut down due to public liabilitys and shit...

Only started back up last year, and now Cams are involved in it, it makes it a little bit more difficult... And we want to beat the Vics that took the trophy last time  :twisted:

[Admin]

Ok get some official rules to see what the restrictions are. Norm (tarahymen) what were the restrictions back then, regarding 4bbl carbies fuel injection etc. did the motor and intake have to remain the same?

[ACEROVERS]

1 General requirements

1.1. All vehicles must comply with Schedule A & B of the CAMS Manual of Motor
Sport along with any specific requirements stated within this document.
1.2. Only two (2) Wheel drive vehicles are permitted to enter in any Rover Scout
Motorsport (SA Branch) event.
1.3. All Competing vehicles are to be scrutineered prior to the event and must be
presented in a ready to compete state.
1.4. The scrutineers’ decision will be final.
1.5. If any changes are made to any Rover Scout Motorsport (SA Branch)
regulations, they will be distributed to all Rover Crews through the appropriate
avenues. It will be the Crews responsibility to be aware of any such changes.
1.6. Competitors are reminded that vehicles and participants may be checked for
safety or eligibility purposes at any time during the course of an event.
1.7. All vehicles involved in an accident are required to be rescrutinised.

2 Body, Shell and Chassis

2.1. The maximum size of the body shall be 5.2 meters long and 2.2 meters wide.
2.2. There shall be no sharp protruding edges on the body work.
2.3. All space frame buggies are to have their body panels securely fitted.
2.4. All doors, bonnets and boot lids are to be securely fixed to the vehicle.
2.5. Fire walls must be fitted as per Schedule A & B of the CAMS Manual.
2.6. All vehicles must be fitted with a metal roof covering all occupants.
2.7. There are to be no unsecured items anywhere in the vehicle.
2.8. The use of distributable ballast is not allowed.
2.9. Vehicles with excessive rust which affects the integrity of the vehicle will not
be allowed to compete.
2.10. Rust sections must be repaired using steel only.
2.11. Hybrid vehicles that utilize a chassis attached to a monocoque type body
shall be specifically excluded, unless an Engineers report deems the vehicle
to be structurally sound.
2.12. To maintain the structural integrity of the vehicle, no holes are to be placed in
main components of the chassis or body.
2.13. A solid towing point must be fitted securely within 400mm of the centreline of
the vehicle at both the front and the rear of the vehicle. They must be clearly
marked with red paint. A “D” shackle is to be fitted to them with at least a
19mm pin. Open hooks are not permitted.
2.14. A safety chain of 8mm (wire size) minimum, must be securely attached to
each tow point and a solid point on the chassis or frame (not to the tow bar),
by the way of bolts and a plate not less than 30mm square and 6mm thick on
each side of the mounting point.
Rover Scout Motorsport (SA Branch)
Standing Regulations 1.11 31st July 2007 5 of 9

4 Steering and Suspension

4.1. All Steering and suspension components must be in good
serviceable working order, that is, no excessive movement within
the components.
4.2. If modifications are made, it must be demonstrated that all the
parts affected are in safe working order.
4.3. All attachment bolts and nuts must be attached using one of the
following methods:
a) Fitted with split pins.
b) Lock wired.
c) Self locking nuts.
d) Double lock nuts.

5 Brakes

5.1. All competing vehicles must be fitted with dual braking systems so arranged
that the pedal normally operates on all four road wheels and, in the event of
leakage at any point in the braking system, the pedal will control two wheels
on opposite sides.
5.2. Each system must have its own reservoir of fluid.
5.3. The brake system must be fully operational and be effective. There must be
no fluid leaks within the system.
5.4 All vehicles must have a supplementary braking system separate to the main
service brakes and must actuate at least two wheels on opposite sides. (Hand
or Foot Brake.)
Rover Scout Motorsport (SA Branch)
Standing Regulations 1.11 31st July 2007 6 of 9

6 Engine and Driveline

6.1. Engine, transmission, and final drives must be securely mounted. The use of
restraints are recommended but are not mandatory.
6.2. Adequate protection must be provided to protect the occupants from hot or
moving parts, including the exhaust.
6.3. The exhaust system must be in good condition, properly mounted with its exit
point beyond that of the occupants. The exhaust system must not exceed
95dBa. (Methods for checking this are contained within the CAMS Manual.)
6.4. The engine, transmission and the final drive are not to have any fluid leaks.
6.5. The fitment of tail shaft safety strap as per Schedule B is required. (If a two
piece shaft is used then a strap is to be fitted at the front of each shaft.)
6.6. All components of the engine cooling system must be fitted with protection
devices as to protect the vehicle occupants in case a failure occurs. This
includes sedans and buggies that have the radiator mounted in or near the
passenger compartment.
6.7. Radiator or cooling systems must have an overflow pipe fitted and must be
positioned in the vehicle as not to cause injury to the occupants, if the vehicle
was to over heat and the boiling water escape.
6.8. Engines are to be fitted with an oil trap container as per Schedule B.
6.9. Engines are to be in an acceptable state, and not have excessive smoke
emissions.
6.10 The exhaust system must be fitted with a spark arresting device.

7 Electrical

7.1. At least two headlamps of no less than 100watts each shall be required for all
night events.
7.2. A rearward facing lamp of a minimum of 21 watts, amber in colour, must be
fitted to the rear of the vehicle and remain luminous when the ignition is on.
7.3. At least two operational tail and stoplights shall be fitted.
7.4. The battery must be securely mounted. If the battery is mounted in the
passenger compartment it must be fully enclosed and a breather fitted to
expel the gasses to the exterior of the vehicle.
7.5. A blue triangle with 150mm sides is to be placed on the body of the vehicle to
indicate where the battery is located.
7.6. All vehicles must be fitted with an audible warning device (horn).
7.7. When using clamps, screws or zip ties make sure there are no sharp edges
or points that may do damage to the electrical loop or to the occupants.
7.8. At least one battery isolation switch is to be fitted. It must perform the
following duties when switched off.
a) Disconnect the battery.
b) Stop the engine and any fuel pumps that may be fitted.
7.9. The isolation switch(s) shall also include the ignition wire, so as to stop the
engine.
7.10. The isolation switch(s) are to be positioned as to enable it to be reached by
both crew members within the vehicle and marshals from outside of the
vehicle. These switches are to be red in colour and must be identified by a
Rover Scout Motorsport (SA Branch)
Standing Regulations 1.11 31st July 2007 7 of 9
white square with 150mm sides containing a smaller red square, which is to
be placed on the body of the vehicle to indicate where the isolation switch is
located
7.11. For automatic transmission vehicles a starter inhibitor (neutral start switch)
must be fitted.

8 Wheels and Tyres

8.1. The fitting of traction aids to the tyres (such as chains) is prohibited.
8.2. For sedan type vehicles the complete wheel and tyre must be within the
confines of the body.
8.3. The use of dual wheel systems is prohibited.
8.4. The correct size tyre is to be fitted to the rim. As defined in Schedule E of the
CAMS Manual.

9 Fuel and Fuel Systems

9.1. The fuel tank filling cap must be of a metal construction and when fitted must
have a mechanism to securely hold it in place.
9.2. Fuel tanks are not to be fitted in an area of the vehicle occupied by the crew.
9.3. If non standard fuel tanks are fitted they must be securely mounted and a
metal firewall must be fitted between the tank and the crew.
9.4. Fuel tanks must have a breather which exists to the exterior of the body.
9.5. Fuel lines of metal construction may run through the vehicle but must have a
secondary cover for protection and no joins are allowed within the area
occupied by the crew.
9.6. All hoses and fittings must be of a good standard and securely mounted.
9.7. Flexible fuel line that is of a commercial grade. and good quality metal worm
drive clamps or OEM fittings are to be used.
9.8. Only commercial pump fuel is to be used. No Av Gas, No LPG and No
additives except as prescribed within Section C. 9.9 of these regs.
9.9. Additives may be added to fuel providing they comply with Schedule G,
Section 6 of the CAMS Manual.
9.10. Refuelling of competing vehicles is only to be done in the designated area of
the compound. Competitors are responsible for all fuel required.
9.11. Refuelling outside of the designated area is seen as highly dangerous and
may result in the deduction of points, a one race sanction, or disqualification
from the event.

This is general rules produced by Scout Motor Sport, ill get the CAMS regs up soon.

[BigNorm]

Ok get some official rules to see what the restrictions are. Norm (tarahymen) what were the restrictions back then, regarding 4bbl carbies fuel injection etc. did the motor and intake have to remain the same?

when i did it basically u could do whatever your budget allowed which generaly isnt very much. however it has to be strong, safe and durable. bangin a big v8 into something small wasnt unheard of but it had to be practical. we had a ke30 corolla with a 253 in it which looked and sounded the part but couldnt get any traction on dirt and couldnt go in any event where there was water cos the air cleaner stuck out the bonnet.

the best we ever did was place 4th overall in a datsun 260C with a 202 in it. we were coming equal 1st one year going into the second day but we cracked the torque convertor when we bellied our valiant safari station wagon and we only had so much engine oil to keep the tranny going. not enough to complete the events.

for any modification to be viable, it either had to be cheap or free. donations were a huge part of the scouting movement

[ACEROVERS]

Its true... were doing some fundraising to help us get along, but ive watched crews put a heap of money into a car, only to watch them put it into a tree... i guess thats racing though.

Talked to the rest of the guys working on it, and we all agreed to put your name somewhere on the car. Not sure yet, but more than likely across the back boot panel... Would have done a window, but lack of them, we cant  

So pending Scouts South Autralia approving it, then yeah, itll be on there.